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Semantics or Mental Masturbation

April 19th 2008 03:27
When a married polygamous Mormon or Muslim male goes to a bar and starts hustling women, is he cheating or shopping?

And I've witnessed both doing just that.

Because neither group (Mormon or Muslim) condones single women being out in public without an escort, this is odd, even for them.

Does that suggest that they are proselytizing females for use as concubines to give their assorted wives a break? Or are they just being self serving?

Does that also apply when they're loitering around the play grounds of elementary schools? They aren't pedophiles, but are normal men shopping for prospective wives?




Is this what it's all about?

The Hokey Pokey? With kids?

Raven

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Comment by katyzzz

April 19th 2008 04:11
Ignoring the M word and I don't mean Mental, and the other does have a time and place, but not in this space.

Women certainly do not get a fair deal in these situations, but the playgrounds bit, you're digging in deep there.

I like the shopping analogy. Some men think its their right and too many women are 'fools' when it comes to understanding inappropriate male behaviour. But even 'fools' should not be easy targets and unfortunate victims.

Comment by Kleonaptra

April 19th 2008 04:41
Yep, theyre shopping alright. Get em young. Teach them all kinds a bullshit....

Comment by tlcorbin

April 19th 2008 04:52
The point about the playgrounds; recently radical M's have been accused of impregnating girls younger than 13, and if they aren't playground fodder then I don't know what is.

I'm sick at heart that anyone would use God (big G) as an excuse for their personal god's predilection for pedophilia.

It's an issue with me katyzzz, I loved being a parent and to see innocents forced into premature parenthood when they should be pursuing an education and learning about life at a slower pace does more than just irritate me.

Raven

Comment by tlcorbin

April 19th 2008 04:56
Hiya kleo, it's a sore point with me; a definite bur under my saddle that's for sure.


Raven

Comment by Morgan Bell

April 19th 2008 08:06
the whole thing is mind boggling . . .

why would an adult man want to marry (or have sex with) a pre-pubescent girl?

why would the parents of the girl allow it?

how could a woman be loyal to a man who is seeking other women (or girls) as partners?

and if they think what theyre doing is all above-board why does it have to go on in a secret elaborately pre-planned fortress of a compound?

if youre an adult and want to be in a weird segregated cult go for it, but it shouldnt involve children, i presume the children were "home-schooled" and prevented from leaving the compound or socialising with others outside the cult . . . its just wrong

Comment by the world of gaye

April 19th 2008 08:08
I think maybe the GOD word is used by a lot of people to twist things to their own advantage. As far as women go, a lot (not all) of men will use religion or anything else they can think of to hold a woman down. It seems like some things never change.

Comment by Ahmed

April 19th 2008 10:14
Actually I wonder about the concept of polygamy, I think even if it is technically illegal by law to be married to more than one woman there is a sort of in-joke (or maybe reality?) that sleeping with multiple women is something only the best men do.

I think society accepts polygamy, I think it actually promotes it, though obviously not in its most obvious form.

Comment by Damo

April 19th 2008 10:35

Polygamy works well if you are self centered.
Up to seven wives is enough. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday...etc.


Not my style actually.

Comment by tlcorbin

April 19th 2008 13:20
Hello Morgan, this whole argument saddens me deeply. There is no practical reason for the practice of polygamy which serves only the egocentric.

Once one taboo is skirted, others topple quickly – why not a 13 year wife if she can bear children, why not a ten year old, 8 year old, why not ~ why not. Isolate and indoctrinate these poor souls and the abnormal becomes the norm.

The men involved aren’t, the women involved aren’t and the children involved can’t be: it and slavery needs to be abolished.
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Hello gaye, the word god is bantered about as though it were the ultimate justification for any action; how presumptuous to believe any man speaks for God and then allows inhumane acts upon others.
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Ahmed, the polygamy you’re indicating is more like premarital escapades; but, in a sense, some women fantasize about being a harem girl…. And the ever opportunistic (predator) guy will attempt to meet that fantasy.

Biological imperatives and the modern age are at odds with one another.
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Not my style either Damo, maybe as fodder for a movie or a novel, but not in my daily life.
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So, are there any arguments that are pro-polygamy? Or pro-pedophilia? I'd like to hear about them.

Raven

Comment by the world of gaye

April 19th 2008 13:36
I'll be pro polygamy if it means women can have multiple husbands !!!

Comment by Morgan Bell

April 19th 2008 14:19
haha multiple husbands, sounds like a punishment

Comment by tlcorbin

April 19th 2008 14:23
That sounds reasonable to me gaye, without trying to be overly tacky, just how much lawn and pool work have you got to keep those souls entertained? The older fellas don't fare well in the hot sun, but the younger fellas thrive in that environment, especially the teens.
Just how low are you willing to go in terms of age? The youngsters have great stamina, but there's a lot to be said for experience....maybe a mixed harem would be appropriate. . .

Eh, follow the herd and do what you want to meet your fantasy needs, many others came before you, with that mindset.

Raven

Comment by the world of gaye

April 19th 2008 14:30
They have to be dwarfs so when I don't need them I can lock them in a cupboard

Comment by tlcorbin

April 19th 2008 14:39
Morgan you may be right; punishment for one ~ heaven for another.

Raven

Comment by tlcorbin

April 19th 2008 14:43
Gaye, gaye . . . gaye, put a perfectly good dwarf in the cupboard, why not rent him out for short breaks or something. Is dwarf tossing still a fad?

Raven

Comment by Johnny Come Lately

April 20th 2008 11:51
It's hideous. How difficult is it now going to be for those kids? Everything they have been raised to believe turned upside down, learning that the people they trusted have not been doing what is good for them although I'm sure that's what they were told. And doing it all in the name of religion. They are pond scum.

Comment by the world of gaye

April 20th 2008 12:37
Okay love the saying "pond scum", I'm keeping it !!

Comment by tlcorbin

April 20th 2008 14:53
Hello JCL, it's a mini blight and the despicable actions of a radical mentally deficient few.
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It say's it all gaye

Raven

Comment by D. Armenta

April 23rd 2008 01:58
Don't forget Scientologists, Raven, or that weird Texas cult that's been in the news lately.

What always stumps me is: why does anyone tolerate such tripe? If all of the victims just picked up the ball and went home, the mental midgets in question would be left all alone with no one to play the game..another definition of "mental masturbation" would ensue, I'm sure...

Comment by tlcorbin

April 23rd 2008 03:33
Hello D.Armenta, how've you been? Yup, toss 'em in the mix, they're all crazed and I post to raise awareness about their penchant for weirdness. How was the road trip?

Raven

Comment by D. Armenta

April 24th 2008 01:38

Comment by Reality

January 3rd 2009 04:56
You need to educate yourself, Mormons do not live that way and they are NOT polygamous. Word of advice; you would feel so much better about yourself and your life if you chose to help others rather than bring them down.

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