tlcorbinChristians Guideline to Rape
March 26th 2008 18:40
Rape is one of the most heinous crimes imaginable. Yet few people know that the Bible often condones and even approves of rape. How anyone can get their moral guidance from a book that allows rape escapes me. Perhaps they have been lied to about the Bible and carefully detoured around all the nasty stuff in the Bible.
So grab your Bibles and follow along as I show you all the nasty rapes that your priests and preachers don't want to tell you about. Note that in many places in the Bible there are references to "taking a wife". Don't be fooled into thinking that these were voluntary marriages. This first quote clearly shows that murder and force were used to "take" these wives.
1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)
So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children. "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin." Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.
The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives. But there were not enough women for all of them. The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel. So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead? There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever. But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."
Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem. They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards. When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife! And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding. Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'" So the men of Benjamin did as they were told. They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance. Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them. So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.
Obviously these women were raped. These people killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more. How can anyone see this as anything but evil?
2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)
They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.
Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Apparently Moses and God approves the of rape of virgins.
3) More Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?
4) Laws of Rape (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.
What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker? Was it God?
5) Death to the Rape Victim (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)
If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.
It is apparent that God doesn't concern himself about the rape victim. He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".
6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die." [The child dies seven days later.]
This has got to be one of the more disturbing quotes of the Bible. God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist. And then he kills a child!
7) Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)
When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.
So rape is to be defined as marriage under compulsion; does that imply that a rapist has co-parental rights that supersedes the right of a woman to abort the child under the compulsion rule?
8) Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil. (Judges 5:30 NAB)
Women reduced to chattel; approved by God?
9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.
Daughters reduced to chattel for batter?
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.
The pedophilia issues exposed to this light of scrutiny aren't being commented about, but do rear their heads in silent protest; it's tacitly embraced in these same verses.
Raven
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Comment by Winston
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Why explain it when you can ignore it? As I've mentioned in the past, there is nothing that can't be supported by a particular interpretation of the Bible. In fact, I'm sure you already know that Biblical defenses of slavery were quite common prior to the Civil War. Clergy and their devout followers were among some of the most strident supporters of slavery, and they had chapter and verse to back it up.
Similarly, it is just as easy to explain things away. We are told time and time again that the Bible is "good", it is "inerrant", it is of such purity that it could only have been inspired by God. One wonders exactly which Bible they're talking about. Or (this is a good one) I have heard many times that the Old Testament is no longer relevant, since Jesus formed a new covenant with mankind. That's all well and good, but why leave it in the book then? Better question, why cite Old Testament passages to condemn homosexuality? You can't have it both ways. Or so you would think. Ahh, the Bible......is there any book that offers more
lieshypocrisyconveniencewisdom?Good post, may the people who need to see this find it.
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I guess there is no answer, the excuse is it's "old testament" apparently God is only good in the new testament? or is it the translation that's sorely at odds.
I hang my head in Christian shame, apparently we Christians only believe in Christ, not God, however when it comes to living a decent "fair" life I don't think one can go past a Christian point of view, we've seen how the rest of the world copes and of the really 'bad' behaviour present now, under the guise of belief or non-belief, but give me the Christian viewpoint on the whole anytime. It appears the best over any other system of belief, non-belief. Such a complex issue, but the world as it is at present "stinks".
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OMIGOD WINSTON! HI *waves enthusiastically* I thought you were gone mate! Great to see you - here of all places!
Raven, my friend, I have enjoyed this post immensely and Ive even done similar posts. 'Dueteronomy' is a great section isnt it? Thats where I found the quote that no man who has had his testicles and penis crushed can enter the kingdom of the LORD....
As usual, I see this as proof that the Bible is a historical SOURCE and wisdom can be gleaned from it as with all historical SOURCES but it is not and cannot ever be absolute truth....
And it really burns me up when 'christians' say its absolute truth but they only quote the bits they like, not the bits that directly contradict!
Ive got a friend that says my bible is incomplete - I have 'dueteronomy' (which he says is all lies) yet I do not have other sections he wants me to read. That makes me think different sects of christianity get different bibles?
This just keeps getting more interesting doesnt it?
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Comment by Winston
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Hi there, Kleo, good to see you. Drop by my page and we'll catch up. There's been some changes......
Raven, you've piqued my curiosity. In what way do you find the hypocrisy of the Bible comparable to the U.S. Constitution?
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I thought my mate and I were the same sect, If anyones supposed to have the full(?) version shouldnt it be ME as catholisim was the beginning and anglican is the offshoot?
Anyways, he was traumatized that my family bible (handed down through generations and everything) was just 'missing' pieces.
Just makes me glad Im not going to church anymore. That place always gave me a headache.
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Hmmm, kleo, without seeing the tome, I couldn't reasonably judge or comment on that particular bible. But, the confusion over why some books were included and others dismissed still puzzles me. It gives me a retched headache as well.
Raven
Comment by Winston
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The Bible, on the other hand, is portrayed as inerrant. Inerrancy leaves no room for debate, no space for correction. It is this Absolute nature of the Bible that has led to so much trouble, more so even than the hypocrisy and the lies. Those are dangerous in and of themselves, but when they CAN NOT be debated without someone declared a heretic, those things become deadly.
Obviously, we know that the Bible IS debated, but it is done so without any hope that it will ever be changed. To change it is to change God's Word, to need to change God's Word is to infer fallibility, and to infer fallibility in God....well, we don't need to open that can of worms, do we.
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Being God inspired doesn't preclude man's misunderstandings of the revealed word or deliberate revelations of convenience; it doesn't guarantee anything other than that an effort was made. The word has had to be subject to interpretation since it's inception. There is no guarantee of accuracy, we are expected to believe all based upon faith. I can see the fingerprint of God throughout the bible, but it isn't consistent, suggesting minor changes.
You only need to be off a fraction of a degree second to miss the moon during space travel, the same applies to measuring up to the law of God vs the interpreted law of Moses.
Both the bible and the constitution were designed to be fluid, flexible and in a sense, self leveling.
Therein lays the brilliance, strength and weakness of both.
Raven
Comment by Winston
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I confess, I am a bit puzzled by your statement, "Both the bible and the constitution were designed to be fluid, flexible and in a sense, self leveling." Not trying to be obtuse, I just don't see any indication that the Bible was ever intended to be "flexible." In fact, many Christians get rather uptight if you suggest such a thing. What am I missing?
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Perhaps a better way to express my earlier point is that they, the bible and constitution were designed to be fluid and self righting; as understanding and circumstance warranted. e.g., you don't feed steak to a newborn and you don't condone dueling in modern society.
Raven
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OK, I've pulled this far enough off topic now. Thank you for indulging me!l
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you've raised some good points. There are christians that don't question or test stuff.
I'm not that sort.
I'd like to engage in some dialogue with you and I promise to remain as civilised as possible.
At this time I can't write as full a reply as I would like as I'm at work and can't dedicate myself to it yet. I would be thankful if you would take the time to read the latest post that I've written on my blog.
I thank you for your time.
JZ
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Comment by Eve
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She's pretty quiet now.
According to Really Long Link
God-fear·ing
–adjective 1. deeply respectful or fearful of God.
It's...interesting that respect of God and fear of God are represented as synonymous.
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Respect ~ the condition of being honored.
Fear ~ a profound emotion inspired by a deity or boot quakingly afraid of something specific, like pain.
There could be fearful respect or respectful fear, but they aren't obviously synonymous.
Thank you for remembering and visiting this post.
Raven
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I am against the institutions of religions, but not against faith based beliefs Eve, even though it may appear that I am.
Interesting situation in this one. . .