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Common Decency vs Censorship

July 18th 2008 00:23

There seems to be a concerted effort being made to see who can put up the most offensive photos and title content to draw attention to their blogs. We are collectively repulsed at the thought of censorship and yet laugh at another’s cry for decorum. That’s pathetic. We vie with one another in the public domain for attention and fans, but at what cost to our selves. Are we as writers so bereft of talent and imagination that all we can come up with is risqué photos and titles to attract readers? It’s a question, not an indictment.

I have put my share of risqué photos up as the grabber for an article, having forgotten that under age kids have access to them because I don’t share my home with any of them. Finally the fickle winds of fate whistled in; I had charge of some siblings visiting my home for a week or so and found genuine reason to censor some sites and my own work.

Here's what we were missing; there are minors that may have access to these blogs when moms and dads aren't present; would you want your minor children viewing some of the photos and content presented lately? I think not.

Taking a stand, and using the adult content label on a post with photos and/or content that might be inappropriate for minors isn't censorship, it common decency. As an artist that has portrayed the nude human form for over twenty years, its never really occurred to me some things aren’t age appropriate, but there are. The only form of censorship that really should be applied is our self censoring or we may have big brother doing it for us.

Raven

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Comment by RubySoho

July 18th 2008 00:32

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You are, quite possibly, the least qualified person on Orble to write this post.

Coming from you it is absolutely hilarious.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 01:24

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Why? I am perhaps the one uniquely qualified Orbler to post this Ruby, having made major contributions to the flotsam of the past.

This must have escaped your attention:

I have put my share of risqué photos up as the grabber for an article, having forgotten that under age kids have access to them because I don’t share my home with any of them. Finally the fickle winds of fate whistled in; I had charge of some siblings visiting my home for a week or so and found genuine reason to censor some sites and my own work.

And, certainly, I could add that "coming from you it would have been nauseating," but that's besides the point and although amusing, irrelevant.

Comment by alt_ed

July 18th 2008 01:32

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I'm with you Larry!

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 02:02

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hahaha, now that is funny. I like it. Send me a copy. . . .oh, this is just great, hahaha..flashing icons, ehawww.

Comment by Tracy

July 18th 2008 02:03

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How did you that icon, alt_ed? Unique!!

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 02:08

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Hey, I asked first . . . it is unique.

Comment by Tracy

July 18th 2008 02:13

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Our messages criss-crossed, Raven. Of course it is yours

Comment by katyzzz

July 18th 2008 02:24

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Well done, Raven, how come I have never liked that Ruby, some people are so dumb.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 02:34

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hahaha, ah, I love this thing.

Tracy, of course I was teasing you, maybe he'll share where he got the software with you.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 02:36

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Actually katyzzz, about all I can say is thank you and . . . dunno about the R person thing.

Comment by Tracy

July 18th 2008 02:36

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interesting..

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 02:38

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yup, it is. . .

Comment by Damo

July 18th 2008 04:01

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Raven

You are a better man than I, Gunga Din.

Anyone can fight to the death on a subject but takes a greater man to see where he has gone wrong and fix it.

The M Rating was introduced onto Orble because some people thought that putting adult material was clever. The reality is that this site is basically designed to make money for Orble via advertising. The more profane the less adds and the money goes away. The other reality that you alluded to that it has no R18 warnings or blockers to stop children browsing over.

The twenty somethings that play to the cheap seats often do not have children and so have no reference point of understanding child psychology and what actually distresses them. In that regard they are terribly ignorant or ruthlessly self serving.

Admittedly one of my posts was slapped with an M Rating (due to the overuse of the word Dickhead), however compared to some that I have seen lately it leaves me confused as to why.

And do not worry about the nay-sayers as they have fallen in love with the word Hypocrisy just like a teenager does. By using the word at every opportunity they think it will obscure their own blatant faults.

Comment by Damo

July 18th 2008 04:25

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oops double post
please delete this

Comment by alt_ed

July 18th 2008 04:28

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Can we censor the double up?

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 05:11

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I'd have to agree with you Damo, and thanks for the comment. What double post? I didn't see one.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 05:13

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Censoring the double ups is appropriate, this is a mixed bags of nutz being hashed out on these pages.

Comment by Damo

July 18th 2008 06:04

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If we censor those that spell it like sensor first.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 06:21

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hmmmm, that'd work I suppose.

Comment by Damo

July 18th 2008 07:19

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Raven
I just saw what that cowardly little Alt_ed has done to his icon.

I don't know how stupid he is but he must be very stupid. People have been kicked off Orble for less. Have you notified Orble Management yet because as soon as you do then they are responsible for taking action.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 07:25

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Really?

It's Orble's world, they have their duties to fulfill, I have fulfilled mine.

Thanks Damo.

Comment by RubySoho

July 18th 2008 07:37

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Maybe parents should start monitoring their children's internet habits, rather than expecting other people to restrict their online behaviour and censor themselves because these said parents think that raising their children is somehow the responsibility of ever single person who ever turned on a computer?

I don't know katyzzz, why have you never liked me? Why don't you like anybody who doesn't play by your rules?

Raven, you posted this article within minutes of putting up a lovely image on Morgan's blog featuring a young, naked lady with a plastic toilet around her head being fucked from behind by an equally naked young man.

Really Long Link

So , yeah, my original statement still stands, you have no business posting this article expecting congratulations when you among the most offensive people on here.

Furthermore, your images are always apropro of nothing, designed for no other purpose but to piss people off.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 08:14

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Really? Perhaps you should look again Ruby . . .

The post is relevant whereas your opinion is like the bottom you set upon; common, bulbous, unsightly and odoriferous.

You and your sycophants are of little concern to me, and so is your opinion.

If the compassion you display is of any real value as an indicator, your parents, friends, uncles, community, faith and life experiences have failed you miserably.

Perhaps it is your unabashed narcissistic rage that needs to be reigned in.

Comment by RubySoho

July 18th 2008 14:32

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Haha.

My opinion is of no concern to you?

For some reason, I don't believe you.

Comment by Skyrun4

July 18th 2008 17:40

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UMmmm, If anyone is submitting adult content on this site they should state this. The parents who are monitoring this assume that people do so. Does it mean it happens? No. Can you monitor your kid when they are in school and you are at work? Using "adult content" is a courtesy that adults use on this site. It, of course, is not an absolute. I know that if I am posting adult content that I would want folks forewarned!
Sky

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 18:28

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Thank you Ruby for that serving of unproductive tripe.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 18th 2008 18:33

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Exactly Sky, and it isn't unreasonable.

Comment by Anonymous

July 18th 2008 23:35

I have put my share of risque photos.

I would say a photo of a deer having anal sex with a dog would probably be deemed risque.

Comment by RubySoho

July 19th 2008 00:09

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Because your constant references to my family are so productive right?

Comment by tlcorbin

July 19th 2008 00:29

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Was it anonymouse, or was your imagination working over time. Look again.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 19th 2008 01:35

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Because your constant references to my family are so productive right?

Your are a product of your parents union, their faith, their moral compass, education and parenting; their success or failure helped mold the person you have morphed into.

I'd have suggest that their efforts were futile on many levels.

~You have a superiority complex,
~You have abandoned the faith of your youth,
~You adopted and rejected Christianity,
~You have abandoned core social beliefs,
~You embrace moral hedonism,
~You rail against anything that commands obedience,
~You are a narcissist,
~You are confrontational,
~You are unwilling to accept honest criticism,
~You are given to casual lying,
~You are argumentative
~You are exploitive,
~You would be a bully if you could,
~You are intolerant,
~You are manipulative,
~You are reactionary,
~You perceive yourself as a victim,
~You are filled with self loathing,
~You are self destructive,
~You are hateful,
~You are vengeful,
~Your are spiteful,
~You are petty and pedantic.

This is a partial list, and is deliberately modest.

These are not traits I would want my offspring to manifest constantly, especially when that child rails so hard to be treated fairly, as an equal, demanding justice and acceptance. But will not cede that herself.

So, yes, references to your family and your upbringing help put things into a clear perspective.

Comment by Damo

July 19th 2008 01:42

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Raven

I think Sky has a point.
Those without kids often make fools of themselves trying to preach about how to raise kids.

Comment by RubySoho

July 19th 2008 01:59

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Hahaha. Excellent checklist.

But you forgot:

* I eat aborted fetuses for breakfast

* I drink the blood of slain Christian as a health tonic

* I kill men and feast on their organs in order to feed of their wonderful maleness, just to try and get through the day as a woman, you know cause I hate it so darn much.

You are beyond the pale here raven.

Beyond the fucking pale.

Grow the fuck up arsehole.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 19th 2008 02:01

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That is correct Damo, things will change when the reality of responsible parenting kicks in.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 19th 2008 02:50

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Ruby, you are a sad barren woman, spiritually, morally, physically.

Comment by Kleonaptra

July 19th 2008 09:34

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Ive got so much to say here, and I want you to all get your whips and knives out. You're going to need them so you can draw and quarter me.

First off, Id like to say Im confused about the filters. Half the time I forget the family friendly one, and Im honestly not sure what category my posts fall into most of the time. I expect to be censored if I do something 'wrong'

so have no reference point of understanding child psychology and what actually distresses them.

Damo, whether you have children or not, it is my belief that no one actually knows this. The only refrence any human has is what affected them as children, so they make efforts to correct in their children the mistakes that were made in themselves - in doing that, they make different mistakes and start the cycle over.

Thats a nice list about Ruby there Raven. Most of those apply to me too you know, which is why I often defend her. I would say in person, Ruby is a lot easier to get along with than I am. It is only a mere shadow of a person that comes across on the web.

And YES, its so easy to say when you dont have children how to raise them, but I dont agree that its the parents job to 'monitor' and 'protect'. I believe its the parents job to explain after the fact. Exposure to the world should occur as soon as the child goes looking for it, not when anyone else says it 'should' happen, and if the parents have to lie or cover their kids ears to protect their precious modesty, they shouldnt have been having kids at all.

Not liking kids, I dont plan on having any, and never have, but if Kman should talk me into it, it will be monsters I loose upon the world, not sheep.

Comment by Damo

July 19th 2008 09:45

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I think you summed your expertise when you said that you do not have kids.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 19th 2008 16:41

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Kleo the list is one of absurdities, I posted it to extract a question. One that would question the voracity of my assumptions and challenge to me defend my assertions. Two words could have accomplished this task: prove it would have worked.

Choosing instead to lash out and engage in name calling. Leaving my contentions dangling and unchallenged; they apparently hit home.

Fussing with me is not a rite of passage and why you want to engage in such a waste of time is beyond me.

Comment by Doug Pollard

July 20th 2008 00:33

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I don't care for censorship, and especially not self-censorship, aka 'thoughtcrime'. I don't even like laws against 'hate speech' - an Orwellian concept if ever there was one. Let people say what they will and let the chips fall as they may.

If you have kids that you wish to 'protect' then do so, though I'm not certain of the value of that protection. Keeping people in ignorance, even small ones, is a dangerous thing to do, and needs careful consideration. It's all about context.

I'm inclined to think we're al a little over-protected from the truth, much of the time.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 20th 2008 01:56

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Well Doug, at what age were you introduced to the realities of life? If it was earlier than you were prepared for emotionally, who got you through that time period. Wouldn't you have preferred to hang onto your innocent view of the world for even a few months longer?

Comment by Doug Pollard

July 20th 2008 02:48

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Actually, no. When I found out the tooth fairy wasn't real, that Santa was just a man in a fat suit (or my Dad), when I learned you had to do the rumpy-pumpy to get a baby rather than pick one up from the cabbage patch, and on into adulthood . . . . I felt very very angry at having my trust abused and having had the wool pulled over my eyes.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 20th 2008 02:53

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So did I, after I got over the information overload.

Comment by Sky

July 20th 2008 03:07

I am so grateful that I had "the wool pulled over my eyes" when I was a child.
When I found out the tooth fairy wasn't real I laughed inside. I sure did make some money considering it wasn't real.
The magic of Santa Claus is still with me today. I am 48 and let me tell you, Christmas is a time of magic, joy and celebration, what ever your belief system is. I am so grateful that my mother went to great lengths to promote Santa.
When I found out where babies really came from, I couldn't wait to practice!
Sky

Comment by Kleonaptra

July 20th 2008 03:09

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I wasnt picking a fight. Doug said it better than I ever could have. I was so consistantly lied to about the realities of the world I had to go out and discover the truth for myself, and that was where I actually got into real danger. If Id been told the actual truth, maybe that wouldnt have happened.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 20th 2008 03:19

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Sky, you're one odd lady hahahaha. Practice does ring in the perfection.

Great take on the issue.

Comment by tlcorbin

July 20th 2008 03:22

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Truth presented at the appropriate time would have been great and very useful.

Comment by Doug Pollard

July 20th 2008 03:35

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Kleo, you hit the nail on the head. I went out into the world ill-prepared, too, and got myself into a lot of trouble I could have avoided if I hadn't been fed all that saccharine gloop by family and church as a child.

Comment by Tracy

July 20th 2008 07:23

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I just have to say that I made my previous icon comment before it turned into a flashing penis.

Comment by Kleonaptra

July 20th 2008 08:52

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Hurrah Doug! Kindred spirit! Extra points for mentioning 'thoughtcrime'

Comment by tlcorbin

July 20th 2008 14:22

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Tracy, that was easy for me to pick up on, I know how that can happen. No worries.
~ ~ ~
Doug, I think it has something to do with parents not getting an up to date "Instruction Manual" for raising kids, and although a few authors tried, they never really hit the mark.
~ ~ ~
Kleo, every time I witness acts of unconscionable behavior, I'm consistently guilty of thought crimes . . .and on those odd occasions, physical assault. I have a thing against bullies and mob mentality.

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